When leaders encourage their team to “switch off” they don’t always realise it can be demotivating and inaccessible.

For many, the idea of switching off is actually daunting. Like a void of space and time that could be used to be making a difference.  

Also, you’re not a lightbulb. You don’t have an on and off switch.

It’s not that black and white. 

The best thing you can do is learn to go from “on” to “recharge.”


This is what we discussed in the episode with Dr Cassandra Goldie, CEO of the Australian Council of Social Service (ACOSS). 

Cass brings public policy expertise in economic, social and environmental issues, civil society, social justice and human rights. Voted one of the most influential people in the Australian social sector, Cass has spent decades representing the interests of people who are disadvantaged, and civil society generally,

In this episode:

  • How Cass fuels and engages her team, even during change

  • Key lessons from decades of influencing and impact in the social sector

  • Insights into techniques for resetting + recharging leadership

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