A podcast series originally created by Clare Desira + Pro Bono Australia

Welcome to Leading Generous Teams. A podcast dedicated to making leadership easier.
We bring you insights from leaders who are having an impact where
- resources are stretched,
- resilience is constantly tested,
- and the social issues and opportunities are never ending.
Hosted by Clare Desira, CEO of the Top Five Movement. Top Five Movement are a team of award-winning coaches with a vision to support generous leaders to have a bigger impact.
Our expertise lies in the practical application of neuroscience for sustainable behaviour change in the workplace.
We’re so glad you’re here and know you’ll leave feeling hopeful and re-energised with ideas on how you can tackle these challenges and support your teams in new ways.
Originally created in partnership by:
Clare Desira, founder of Top Five Movement
An organisation that has flipped the script on change mindset, resilience + leadership training for thousands of people across 40 countries. To immediately start building your team’s resilience on a daily basis with Top Five’s free toolkit head to topfivemovement.com/tools
Pro Bono News
Australia’s leading news outlet for the social economy, keeping you up to date with what’s happening across the sector and why it matters for you.

Podcast episodes + other resources
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Our Watch CEO, Patty Kinnersly, on how to use your team to change your mindset on hard days
When you’re not feeling like you’re on your game, motivation’s waning, and you can’t talk yourself out of your funk, no matter how many positive affirmations you recite, it’s [...]
Bonus Episode + Invitation: How we build “unbreakable teams” at Top Five Movement
A client recently shared that we’ve made their team unbreakable. Why? As a team of award-winning mindset coaches, we deliver innovative leadership programs that disrupt unhelpful thinking + patterns, [...]
Why Hollywood motivation just doesn’t cut it…when it comes to building teams
You’re watching a movie. You’re really getting into it. The main character is on a heroic journey. Against all odds, they overcome all of the things to get the happy ending. The [...]
ACOSS CEO Dr Cass Goldie on why switching off doesn’t cut it when it comes to leading teams
When leaders encourage their team to “switch off” they don’t always realise it can be demotivating and inaccessible. For many, the idea of switching off is actually daunting. Like [...]
St Luke Health’s Barb Brown on how role clarity unlocks purpose and builds motivated teams
Role clarity. It seems so simple it’d be easy to miss. Of course there’s a job description when the contract is signed, but how do you use that as [...]
CASE STUDY: Top Five made our team unbreakable
As a leader it makes sense to do team building work when you’ve got a full team right? The truth is, there’s so much change and movement within roles and across organisations [...]
Telstra’s Former Group Executive, Alex Badenoch on what vulnerability looks like practically, at the highest levels of leadership
Leaders are often looked to as experts. But they’re not. The strongest leaders surround themselves with experts, which means, you don’t know the answer a lot of the time. [...]
ACF’s CEO, Kelly O’Shanassy on why being a pushover won’t build collaborative or motivated teams
People think that a collaborative team is being a yes person, never disagreeing, and singing kumbaya in a circle. But actually, leading a collaborative team takes some hard decisions. [...]